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(Message started by: rzezniksangel on Apr 27th, 2006, 9:59pm)
Title: Ticket Prices
Post by rzezniksangel on Apr 27th, 2006, 9:59pm
So I was looking at the ticketmaster site tonight, checking to see how much money I'm going to have to save up (my show doesn't go on sale until 6/3....woohoo!), and the one date they have listed as just the Counting Crows (6/29) has a rather high ticket price listed.

http://www.ticketmaster.com/artist/735190

$65.00!!!  

Are they serious???  I've never paid more than $30 for a ticket to a Goo show (the tour w/Bon Jovi doesn't count).  Didn't the guys say a tour or two ago that they like to have sponsors to help keep the ticket prices down?  What happened to that?
Title: Re: Ticket Prices
Post by YoursGOOLY on Apr 27th, 2006, 10:32pm
YIKES! That's not GOO-d... :o
I'm afraid to look!
Title: Re: Ticket Prices
Post by nmf016 on Apr 27th, 2006, 10:39pm
That's what happens with a co-headling tour. �Everyone was so upset because it was co-headlining, I was mad because it means the cost is doubled. �I'm sorry, but the Goos that swore they'd never charge ridiculous prices for tickets are dead. �

Oh, plus to even be able to buy those $65 tickets, you're now expected to shell out $30 for the presale option.
Title: Re: Ticket Prices
Post by iris3732 on Apr 27th, 2006, 10:52pm
Good lord.

Good freakin' lord.

I was not expecting them to be THAT high.  :'(
Title: Re: Ticket Prices
Post by ShanGooFan on Apr 27th, 2006, 11:08pm
I have to admit I was a little bit shocked by the price too. :o  I guess I'll only be seeing them once while they're with the CC.
Title: Re: Ticket Prices
Post by aurora on Apr 28th, 2006, 12:35am

on 04/27/06 at 21:59:40, rzezniksangel wrote:
I've never paid more than $30 for a ticket to a Goo show


oh boy...i have.





on 04/27/06 at 22:39:29, nmf016 wrote:
Oh, plus to even be able to buy those $65 tickets, you're now expected to shell out $30 for the presale option.



the $30 for the fan club might be a good deal if you want to access their message boards and get to the meet and greets...but, forget about presale tickets.  in my experience, presales for the most part suck and you're lucky if you get good seats.  they only release a certain number of seats and (if seated) they're shuffled throughout the venue, you don't always get offered the best seats.  if you want good tickets, and you're thinking about paying the $30 just because of that...my suggestion to you would be to find a reputable ticket agent in your area and secure good seats for about $15 extra a seat.  


good luck
Title: Re: Ticket Prices
Post by Pon on Apr 28th, 2006, 1:14am
I'm sorry to say this, but I feel the that Goo's are not about the fans, or not anymore.

I mean, first off, sure, they can make any kind of music they want, but the whole point besides making money is to cater to fans. Obviously it's not about the money, but they're not catering to the fans either with their new music. It's a "I'll do whatever I want" and "I'll take as long as I want" album.

Now they are touring with CC and charging higher. They just seem like whatever to me. I doubt they care about profits, but they like "ok, whatever".
Title: Re: Ticket Prices
Post by jret57 on Apr 28th, 2006, 10:08am
I think this is simply a similar situation to what happened when U2 gave control of their fan club to an outside company.... in case you didn't hear, their most recent tour was fraught with fan club presale problems, with many fans who were expecting access to 'the best seats' being shut out completely... it was a complete miracle for me to get presale tickets to see them at Madison Square Garden back in May... U2 finally realized the error of their ways and apologized to the fans, while taking a much larger role in their fan club operation.  The adjustments to the meet and greet policy seems like a good sign, but hopefully the fellas will listen to the fans and not simply use the fan club as a money making gimmick they pay no attention to.
Title: Re: Ticket Prices
Post by nmf016 on Apr 28th, 2006, 10:10am

on 04/28/06 at 01:14:34, Pon wrote:
I'm sorry to say this, but I feel the that Goo's are not about the fans, or not anymore.

I mean, first off, sure, they can make any kind of music they want, but the whole point besides making money is to cater to fans. Obviously it's not about the money, but they're not catering to the fans either with their new music. It's a "I'll do whatever I want" and "I'll take as long as I want" album.

Now they are touring with CC and charging higher. They just seem like whatever to me. I doubt they care about profits, but they like "ok, whatever".


I agree to a certain extent.  I think they have a right to make the music they want to make and we have the right to not like it, but I don't think they owe us an apology or anything.

However, the start of this tour and album have left me with a really bad taste in my mouth about the band.  For a long time, the Goos could do no wrong in my eyes.  I was willing to still support the band even though I don't like the new album, but they're making it very hard to be a real fan.  You're expected to pay to join a club to be a fan. You're expected to buy the most expensive tickets they have ever sold so that the tour can support another band that you have no interest in.  

(And I have my own personal madness of the Goos making no real attempt to get tickets into the hands of "real fans" for the promo tour (Buffalo show) they said was for the fans.  Not a single person from ANY Goo messageboad won tickets through the radio stations, except one person who was then told she was too young to go)

There's something seriously wrong with the way this is all going.  I was around when DUTG and GF got released and I never felt like true fans were being taken for granted during those time periods.
Title: Re: Ticket Prices
Post by AirHej on Apr 28th, 2006, 12:26pm

on 04/28/06 at 10:10:49, nmf016 wrote:
�(And I have my own personal madness of the Goos making no real attempt to get tickets into the hands of "real fans" for the promo tour (Buffalo show) they said was for the fans. �Not a single person from ANY Goo messageboad won tickets through the radio stations, except one person who was then told she was too young to go)

There's something seriously wrong with the way this is all going. �I was around when DUTG and GF got released and I never felt like true fans were being taken for granted during those time periods.


You couldn't be more right. I really have a bad taste about how everything is going down. I don't particularly like LLI. I think it's their weakest effort. In fact, I think it ranks below DUTG, GF, and SSC. I find myself automatically skipping thru tracks and I've never done that on Goo albums.

This whole show in Buffalo really bothers me to. I'm one of the diehards who was out there waiting for hours and front row for the Uncle Sam's Jam and yet I can't go to this show "for the fans" on Saturday night? I love listening to Janet Snyder or one of the awful local DJ's go to the lucky caller "Are you a Goos fan?" Caller responds after screaming "Ohhh yeah, the biggest." Riiiiight. Why haven't any members on the msg boards I read won these contests for tickets? So frustrating.

I'm going to the album signing tomorrow. I almost feel like telling the guys how frustrated I am about this "free show for the fans."

OHHH, and another thing that bothers me, interviews in which the guys talk about LLI and put GF down like it was a bad album or something. Give me a break. LLI doesn't hold up to GF at all.
Title: Re: Ticket Prices
Post by nmf016 on Apr 28th, 2006, 12:59pm
You have mail, my fellow Buffalonian...
Title: Re: Ticket Prices
Post by fizzygoo2 on Apr 28th, 2006, 2:25pm
Holy sh*t.

$65 is a LOT of money.

I went to the CC/John Mayer co-headlining tour a couple summers ago and i definitely don't remember it being that high. They went to basically the same venues, and John Mayer is FAR more popular than the Goos are. Every freaking mindless screaming high school girl in the area was at that show. Haha if you can't tell I'm not a John Mayer fan, and I know i definitely wouldn't have paid $65 just to see CC.

I don't think we should blame the Goos alone for the price spike. I actually like LLI, and I'm gonna go see them regardless of price, but God that's ridiculous. I'm sure the Counting Crows and whoever manages them have a hand in this. Any CC fans here who can try to explain the outrageous prices? Surely it can't just be to cover gas for the tour bus. It hasn't gone up THAT much!
Title: Re: Ticket Prices
Post by januaryfriend27 on Apr 28th, 2006, 5:55pm
I have definitely paid more than $65 for a Goo show.... $65 sounds good to me.
Title: Re: Ticket Prices
Post by rzezniksangel on Apr 28th, 2006, 10:30pm

on 04/28/06 at 17:55:02, januaryfriend27 wrote:
I have definitely paid more than $65 for a Goo show.... $65 sounds good to me.


I have never had to pay that much to see them on tour.  The tour with Bon Jovi was the only exception ($75/ticket) and then the Dale Earnhardt Tribute Concert was the same price.  But every time they've come down to FL on one of their tours, it has never cost me more than $30-35 after ticketmaster's charges.  I just don't get why the price this tour has DOUBLED!!  I'm really unhappy with this.  Regardless, I'll be going, but I can't afford to buy my sister a ticket now too....so I'll be solo at the ONE show I can even get to.  
Title: Re: Ticket Prices
Post by YoursGOOLY on Apr 28th, 2006, 11:38pm

on 04/28/06 at 10:10:49, nmf016 wrote:
Not a single person from ANY Goo messageboad won tickets through the radio stations


PRECISELY! I felt the same way when they auctioned off a "Goo-ey luncheon" at a local station here. Never heard one single word about it... :shakehead:
Title: Re: Ticket Prices
Post by Caroline on Apr 29th, 2006, 6:46pm
Get real guys! Did it ever occur to anyone that once the band realized that they could charge more, they probably would charge more from now on? How about the rising cost of touring? The cost of everything has gone up since they last toured. The bus fuel alone must be astronomical!

Touring ain't cheap but it's the only way they are going to make any real money from the album. I don't think this album is going to sell like DUTG - more like GF and that wasn't great. The only money the guys make is from touring and concessions -- I consider the fan club and the online store to be an extension of the concessions.

This is a business. It's not about art and it's not about fans. If that were true, the Goos would be on a indy label and would have more control over their schedule. Once a band is with a major label, it's all about the business.

Perhaps once they are out of their Warner contract they can either go with an indy label or start their own (or use Robby's). After that, things may change.
Title: Re: Ticket Prices
Post by iris3732 on Apr 29th, 2006, 11:44pm

on 04/28/06 at 12:26:51, AirHej wrote:
OHHH, and another thing that bothers me, interviews in which the guys talk about LLI and put GF down like it was a bad album or something. Give me a break. LLI doesn't hold up to GF at all.


Yeah, at the show last week they played like 5 songs from DUTG, most from LLI (I expected that as it was a promotional tour for the new disc) and 2 from ABNG...and only one from GF - Here Is Gone, the only commercial success. They didn't even play Sympathy.

I hope for the summer tour they don't neglect GF. Just because it didn't sell a million records, I hope they don't think that no one likes it.  :-/
Title: Re: Ticket Prices
Post by ShanGooFan on Apr 30th, 2006, 11:10am

Quote:
I hope for the summer tour they don't neglect GF. Just because it didn't sell a million records, I hope they don't think that no one likes it.  

I hope so too. I LOVED Gutterflower. Even though the overall theme of the album is darker I still love it and think the song writing is unbelievable.


Title: Re: Ticket Prices
Post by partygoober on Apr 30th, 2006, 11:36am
you just crushed all my dreams

~Kristyn~


p.s. when do tickets go on sale...i'm being a very bad fan right now
Title: Re: Ticket Prices
Post by NeverFadeToGrey on Apr 30th, 2006, 12:55pm
i hope they don't ditch gf either. i like some of the songs on it still especially what a scene :)
Title: Re: Ticket Prices
Post by iris3732 on Apr 30th, 2006, 6:55pm
Scratch my post about them only playing one song off GF. Robby did play both Smash and Tucked Away, I believe.

But still.....I want a good balance at the summer shows...I'd love to hear like 5 songs from there.....especially Truth is a Whisper
Title: Re: Ticket Prices
Post by goober_1013 on Apr 30th, 2006, 7:39pm
$65 is cheap for me. . .i won't even let it slip how much i paid for the last Goo show i went to.  it was well worth it though, that was the best one i'd ever been to. . . ;D
Title: Re: Ticket Prices
Post by LadyGoodiva on May 1st, 2006, 5:04pm
Well, all the shows that they've been having were pretty much promotional, with lots of tix being given away on radio stations, etc.  There were some fans on Absolute Goo who have won tickets, BTW.

I think everyone (all bands) are charging more for their tickets for several reasons.

1)  The cost of fuel is a lot higher than it was last go around, and it's going to go even higher this summer.  Diesel is already $3 to $3.50 in most parts of the country.  This affects the price of everything, not just travel.

2)  SCALPERS - There have always been ticket "brokers" and there always will be, but services like Ebay have made it much easier for semi-professional scalpers to get in the game.  When ticket prices are lower, it just means that scalpers can afford to scoop up more of them.  If someone is going to make the big bucks, shouldn't it be the artist?

I seem to remember the best tickets at the Bon Jovi/Goo concerts cost around $75 each.  For Bon Jovi's tour right now they're charging up to $125, with GA pit tickets being auctioned STARTING at $150.  The Premium reserved tickets are up to $440 each.

3)  It's a co-headlining show.  The Goos and Counting Crows are expecting their regular payday.  For people who are fans of both bands, it's a great deal.

JMHO
Title: Re: Ticket Prices
Post by partygoober on May 2nd, 2006, 7:57am

on 05/01/06 at 17:04:54, LadyGoodiva wrote:
Well, all the shows that they've been having were pretty much promotional, with lots of tix being given away on radio stations, etc. �There were some fans on Absolute Goo who have won tickets, BTW.

I think everyone (all bands) are charging more for their tickets for several reasons.

1) �The cost of fuel is a lot higher than it was last go around, and it's going to go even higher this summer. �Diesel is already $3 to $3.50 in most parts of the country. �This affects the price of everything, not just travel.

2) �SCALPERS - There have always been ticket "brokers" and there always will be, but services like Ebay have made it much easier for semi-professional scalpers to get in the game. �When ticket prices are lower, it just means that scalpers can afford to scoop up more of them. �If someone is going to make the big bucks, shouldn't it be the artist?

I seem to remember the best tickets at the Bon Jovi/Goo concerts cost around $75 each. �For Bon Jovi's tour right now they're charging up to $125, with GA pit tickets being auctioned STARTING at $150. �The Premium reserved tickets are up to $440 each.

3) �It's a co-headlining show. �The Goos and Counting Crows are expecting their regular payday. �For people who are fans of both bands, it's a great deal.

JMHO


HEY STRANGER!

~Kristyn~
Title: Re: Ticket Prices
Post by LadyGoodiva on May 2nd, 2006, 10:03am

on 05/02/06 at 07:57:55, partygoober wrote:
HEY STRANGER!

~Kristyn~


Stranger than ever!  :naughty:  :woohoo:  :hahaha:
Title: Re: Ticket Prices
Post by Caroline on May 3rd, 2006, 12:19pm
In support of the higher prices theories:

From Robby's blog:

were thinking of touring on bicycles this year. . . no only kidding, but really, it costs us almost 1500 dollars per day for fuel out here on the road. . . .crazy. . . . .but we are thinking of switching to running our tour busses on bio diesel for the summer, no cheaper, but at least our farmers are getting some of the profits from that. . . . .after record setting highs for the oil industry, our farmers deserve a break. . . . . .do your part. . . . and ask your representatives to do theirs. . . . . .please. . . . .

If they drive seven days a week, that's $10,500! That's just for bus fuel - not salaries, insurance, food, or lodging.
Title: Re: Ticket Prices
Post by LadyGoodiva on May 3rd, 2006, 12:45pm

on 05/03/06 at 12:19:42, Caroline wrote:
In support of the higher prices theories:

From Robby's blog:

were thinking of touring on bicycles this year. . . no only kidding, but really, it costs us almost 1500 dollars per day for fuel out here on the road. . . .crazy. . . . .but we are thinking of switching to running our tour busses on bio diesel for the summer, no cheaper, but at least our farmers are getting some of the profits from that. . . . .after record setting highs for the oil industry, our farmers deserve a break. . . . . .do your part. . . . and ask your representatives to do theirs. . . . . .please. . . . .

If they drive seven days a week, that's $10,500! That's just for bus fuel - not salaries, insurance, food, or lodging.


Very cool about using bio-diesel.  It's not just good for the farmers, it's good for the environment.  Imagine standing behind a running 18 wheeler and smelling nothing but POPCORN  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ticket Prices
Post by Kevster89 on May 25th, 2006, 11:52am
Thats exactly why i didnt buy presales but just got lawn gen. admission for the show im goin to.
Title: Re: Ticket Prices
Post by Fuelie on May 25th, 2006, 1:35pm
I can vouch for the fuel thing. My parent's are truck drivers. They own their truck and have their own authority which means they work for themselves and not for a company. They get their loads from 2 load brokers (you make more money this way rather then working for a company who gets most of the money for the load) Anyway, my mom figured up stuff for their taxes (fuel reciepts and stuff) and from last year to this year they spent 120,000 on fuel. When fuel was cheaper they probably spent half that. So I understand what they are saying on the fuel end of it.
Title: Re: Ticket Prices
Post by Shaun on May 25th, 2006, 4:42pm
Spose it aint just the guys any more, they got other members who they gotta pay to.  Least they comen to UK so I'll pay woteva :) So excited. Cheapest tickets I ever got but then they aint the CC tour ones. Bon Jovi and Nickelback just did a few gigs over here and that cost like 120 quid which is loads


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