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(Message started by: Dream of Goo on May 1st, 2005, 8:43am)

Title: Something about JOHN
Post by Dream of Goo on May 1st, 2005, 8:43am
Hi

I have two things i wanna say about John, the first is...
well, i don't it was right to mention but...
I was reading an interview the other day and i was really touched by what John said. Don't know if any of you guys have heard this, but John was saying that he had a dream once where he saw his dad. He whispered in his ear and said to him 'i have enough money to buy the bar back'.. in relation to when john dad wanted to take over his dad's bar but john's grandma had sold it or something, and john felt his dad's pain all his life. I felt really emotional reading this and thinking how people can leave this world without accomplishing their dreams and the rest try... at that time i had lost someone so maybe that's why i felt more after reading the article.

The other thing was, there is this link that takes you to a goo page with quotes from John, the first quote in the list really surprised me as i didn't know that john would say such a thing, but i want u guys 2 read it and tell me what u think 2 - oh and there's some super cool pics of the goo's and John.

http://www.geocities.com/softball96/GGDbandinfo.html


Title: Re: Something about JOHN
Post by Iris74 on May 1st, 2005, 10:55am
He said it.  I've got a bootleg CD of that show.   He complained A LOT during that show, I think he was having a REALLY bad day.

Title: Re: Something about JOHN
Post by Dream of Goo on May 1st, 2005, 11:48am
i wish i could see that show, i have 2 see it to believe it.
He's human, can't be blind to think not just cos he's a rock star and writes nice songs..
He must have been really stressed say that- some really out there statements

Title: Re: Something about JOHN
Post by DrPepperGoo87 on May 1st, 2005, 12:25pm
well, true, what he said was a lil on the vulgar side but some ppl have a hard time not lashing out at others when they get pissed or stressed out. sometimes i do things like that to my mom or sister and i won't give a s**t what they think or how much i hurt them in the moment. it's not something i'm proud of but usually, if i'm in the wrong, i apologize to them later. i can't stand it when ppl i love or care about are mad at me or hurt by me.

maybe she said it to him in a manner or tone that just rubbed him the wrong way. who am i to judge him? i don't even know him.

i know his personality sometimes comes across to ppl as a "i don't give a flying f**k what other ppl think" but sometimes when he says things that are misconstrued as rude or vulgar, it's more than likely not because he doesn't care but actually because he's just stressed out. that's what i'm thinking, not what i know, so if i'm wrong, sorry.

btw, i think he should quit smoking too...not bc it's disturbed his voice but just bc it's bad for his health and those around him...and, obviously, i don't want him to die.

Title: Re: Something about JOHN
Post by Dream of Goo on May 1st, 2005, 12:33pm
Yeh no-one's perfect, i hope it wasn't silly of me to bring this thread up, but it as soon as i read it i had to share it with you guys.
Also, on that link there's a pic of john with his niece which i thought was super cute, cos he took her to the treasure planet preview.
Also i didn't know who Adrienne Frantz was by her name but i used to watch her when she was really young in sunset beach as tiffany, so i was surprised to see her, especially with John as i didn't know, she's grown up pretty. �

Title: Re: Something about JOHN
Post by nmf016 on May 1st, 2005, 12:39pm
He didn't actually say that quote to the girl who told him to stop smoking.  He just said he said that during the concert.  It makes for a good story.

The person who that story is apparently about used to (still does?) post here.

Title: Re: Something about JOHN
Post by SassyMay on May 1st, 2005, 3:42pm
well he should really stop smoking it's really bad for his health.but i mean that's just what i think.but i mean i wouldn't walk up to him and say that i mean beleive me i kow soemone who smokes and i said that to her once and she got so mad at me.i wanted to crawl in the corner of the room and disappear.that was kinda rude of that person to just walk up to him and say that i mean she didn't even know him.i would never do anything like that to anybody(now i won't anyway) especially a musician!

Title: Re: Something about JOHN
Post by Dream of Goo on May 1st, 2005, 3:49pm
Yeh i was thinkin about this and its like telling someone to lose weight or something on those lines. Its sensitive area to tread on. I sure when one says like stop smoking its cos it bad 4 yr health but it can upset that person cos its somthing they do.

Title: Re: Something about JOHN
Post by YoursGOOLY on May 1st, 2005, 6:21pm
It isn't an easy thing to do. I quit smoking about 1� yrs. ago. I had several unsuccessful attempts before "it stuck"...  :P You also have to be ready to quit on your own; nobody can really help or persuade you into doing it.

When I met John 2 years ago, he had just lit up. When I approached him he put it out. I felt kinda guilty because, at the time, it didn't bother me. It wouldn't bother me today either come to think of it.  :-/

Title: Re: Something about JOHN
Post by Dream of Goo on May 1st, 2005, 6:38pm
Wow, so u actually met John, i've heard lots of people on this msg board have met him. If it's not too much 2 ask i just wanted to know how do you get to meet individuals like John?

Title: Re: Something about JOHN
Post by YoursGOOLY on May 1st, 2005, 7:59pm
Well, I actually met John in a restaurant. Mike was there, too. I had met Mike (& Robby) before. It sounds really "cheesy," but the saying is true...at the right place, at the right time. ---> a.k.a. LUCK  :woohoo:
I got his autograph, but wasn't able to get a pic  :'(

I met Mike and Robby after a show in a small venue. That was back in '99.  :)

Title: Re: Something about JOHN
Post by Dream of Goo on May 2nd, 2005, 6:03am
Oh lucky you!!!!  :D
You have the memory in your mind, that's worth more than a pic i think.

And that smoking thing, I haven't seen John smoke at concerts as much as the leader singer of my other favourite band HIM, Ville Valo. Who smokes and has a drink in the other hand whilst he's signing on stage. lol. He says he does it cos he gets nervous. It's come to the point that i'd be surprised if he didnt do this!!

Title: Re: Something about JOHN
Post by SassyMay on May 2nd, 2005, 6:09pm
wel in a sense it is better than a pic as a matter of fact the more i think about what you said having that memory is a lot better than a pic i mean iw ould be grateful to see them from a SMALL(i can't stress that enough) distance but if it were like any more than ten feet it wouldn't be good enough!I know i'm spoiled!I've never met them or been to a concert(of any band)so.. but that's all gonna change come later this year..... ;)

Title: Re: Something about JOHN
Post by YoursGOOLY on May 2nd, 2005, 10:25pm
It's really kinda strange because now that I met John, I was "forced" to face reality...what he was really like as opposed to what I imagined he would be like, ya know?  :-/

GOOd luck to you both meeting them someday, Dream of Goo and SassyMay! Never give up faith...It will be SO worth it!  :-*
P.S. I want to hear all about it when you do!  ;)


Title: Re: Something about JOHN
Post by Dream of Goo on May 3rd, 2005, 12:33pm
How was he different from the image that u had in yr mind of john, robby and mike? in a good or bad way.

I hope i get to go to atleast 1 of their concert or to a meet and greet - if u here anything please let me know. But thanks 4 yr wishful thinking yoursgooly.
oooh sassy may, u got me all curious, r u gonna reveal the band yr meeting or is it the goo's??  

Title: Re: Something about JOHN
Post by MethodInMadness on May 3rd, 2005, 7:35pm
I hope to meet them someday. I've never been to any of their concerts either. Which is why Now I'm desperately waiting for summer/fall and their new album and tour so I can goooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Title: Re: Something about JOHN
Post by goober_1013 on May 3rd, 2005, 9:30pm
i've met them twice and it is a bit of reality in the face. . .you have this larger than life image of them, then all of a sudden they are in your face talking to you. . .makes you realize, they're a person too, not just a voice on an album or an image on tv. . .john was alot shorter than i imagined!  but they are all wonderful to their fans, especially robby, he goes out of his way to make the fans happy!  gosh, i can't wait 'til the next tour. . . ;D

Title: Re: Something about JOHN
Post by YoursGOOLY on May 3rd, 2005, 10:29pm
I agree with goober_1013 about John's height....I was a bit surprised he was shorter than me  :o

They were all very nice. Mike seemed a little quiet and shy, but EXTREMELY polite. I just got Robby's autograph so I don't remember much about him in particular.  :-/ We were waiting for John to show (which never happened that night...sniff, sniff)

I was slightly disappointed that I couldn't get a pic with John. It would've taken 2 whole seconds!  :'( I was bummed after traveling nearly 5 hrs to see them that day... let alone 7 other concerts, motels, gas $, CD/DVD purchases, etc, etc.

Title: Re: Something about JOHN
Post by girlnamedgrace on May 4th, 2005, 5:45am
Regarding that quote, when I read it I just laughed. John's got a filthy mouth(from the quotes I've read) but he's just so goddamn cool it doesn't matter. He's a nasty boy, in a good way ;)

As regards smoking, I think its reallt awful and bad for you and all that malarkey, but, for some bizarre reason, I think seeing someone smoking is incredibly sexy. Please don't all berate me at once, for although I am a looney (  :P ) I don't think I'm alone in thinking this.
I'm also a non-smoker. I know big weirdo. Non-smoker finding smoking sexy. :P

Title: Re: Something about JOHN
Post by babsil30 on May 4th, 2005, 11:32am
i just chalk it up to him being just a normal guy! *shrugs shoulders* �also... let's not forget that john COULD be embellishing the story just a tad bit! �remember when he told the story about the little girl on the gutterflower album cover? i mean, basically it was the same story, but each time, a bit different and a bit more embellished. �

-Babs �:D

Title: Re: Something about JOHN
Post by Dream of Goo on May 4th, 2005, 11:48am
i didn't here what he said about  the girl on the gutter flower album.....

Title: Re: Something about JOHN
Post by babsil30 on May 4th, 2005, 1:10pm
i don't know the story verbatim, but basically the little girl during the photo shoot was somewhat... bratty i guess is a good way to say!  supposedly kicking  and just being mean in general..spoiled perhaps.

but from what other's have said, the version they heard was more "violent" than what i originally heard!

just makes for a good story! not saying john lied, but i think with each story telling, he was a bit more enthusiastic... i dunno!

Title: Re: Something about JOHN
Post by american_girl on May 4th, 2005, 1:31pm
John's told that smoking story quite a bit... he told it here in Orlando as well... at the beginning of the GF tour... not long after that I met the girl involved in the story...  she was pretty upset that he was telling it that way... I've heard both versions of the event and what was said... let's just say John would make a great fisherman... he loves to tell stories....

Title: Re: Something about JOHN
Post by Dream of Goo on May 4th, 2005, 2:04pm
He's not that innocent then!! lol

Title: Re: Something about JOHN
Post by Dream of Goo on May 4th, 2005, 5:15pm
http://www.googoodollsrock.com/theband_john_stories-jokes.html

Hey guys, i don't know if u have seen this site, but oh my u guys u should read it cos it so funny and answers all the questions about John and making up stories.... i never heard about the name story before and the gutterflower story is on here too.
And we can all tell he tells them to make everything seem more interesting!!!

Title: Re: Something about JOHN
Post by babsil30 on May 4th, 2005, 9:32pm
well, he is after a story teller!!  just most of his stories that we know are put to music!  :D ;)

Title: Re: Something about JOHN
Post by RogueUK on May 5th, 2005, 3:01am
About the smoking thing - I can sorta see both sides. I can see how a fan might be concerned about John's health...but at the same time, he's a grown man and he's capable of making his own decisions. Obviously, he knows that smoking is bad for him, and chooses to do it anyway, and I can see how it would be annoying for other people to tell you to quit, as if you didn't already KNOW it was a bad habit...

Title: Re: Something about JOHN
Post by Iris74 on May 5th, 2005, 4:01pm
He's tried to quit off and on.    Not sure if it's taken yet.  But he does know.

Title: Re: Something about JOHN
Post by Dream of Goo on May 5th, 2005, 4:27pm
http://shakethisscene.com/main.html

I never knew john had said all these things, very interesting. Click on johnny and then Check 'words of wisdom' and 'quotes' section.

Title: Re: Something about JOHN
Post by MethodInMadness on May 5th, 2005, 9:45pm
I heard he said that girl was slightly unusual and ended up eating the flower she was holding. Where I got that from, I have no clue...



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