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(Message started by: Iggy_the_Cat on Jan 31^st, 2005, 4:52pm)

Title: This is the end...
Post by Iggy_the_Cat on Jan 31^st, 2005, 4:52pm

I've heard a lot of people discussing on this board about the possibility that the upcoming album will be the Goos last. While there is method to this madness, I disagree with them whole heartedly (even from a non-bias perspective).

I'm guessing that people are making this assumption because this is their last album they are legally obligated to produce for Warner Bros.

This DOES NOT mean the Goo Goo Dolls will be disbanding. There are hundreds of bands that have to renew contracts with their label or simply sign over to another label. Considering their success...and even recent success... a label would have to be brain-dead to refuse a contract.

No matter what, the Goo Goo Dolls will make money for whatever record company they are signed to. Money talks.

Now maybe I'm "so outta line" but if people are making their assumptions because of the end of the contract...I have to say they're mistaken. But maybe I'm missing something. Has one of the band members or a representative of the band made an official statement regarding the matter?

Just my thoughts...

I just think they'll be around a lot longer than people think...

come on... Look at the Stones!!!!!

Title: Re: This is the end...
Post by nmf016 on Jan 31^st, 2005, 5:07pm

I think it will be the last record for the Goos. If not, maybe one more. But it has nothing to do with the record contract.

I have absolutely no idea what kind of contract the Goos have with Warner Bros and don't really know how anyone else knows. So I'm not basing my guesses on legalities.

Here are the reasons I think the Goos are coming to an end. To start with, they have all said that they didn't want to be "40 and a Goo Goo Doll". Yes, one has hit that point, but they seem to have been clear that they weren't planning to do it forever. Secondly, they have said it is hard to have a real life when you're in a band. At least two members of the band have said they wanted a family and kids and seem to be aware that they should quit the touring thing before then. All of them have begun new activities such as producing and playing for other artists, activities that can be done from one place and don't require travel. Also, it seems like it keeps taking longer for them to finish another record, so it must be something that is difficult to keep doing.

I don't think the Goos would have a problem resigning to Warner Bros or another label, as they have remained quite popular (hey, if Mariah Carey can be paid to leave a label, someone will pay to have the Goos). But I don't think they would sign on to another contract just for money. I'm sure they all have more than they ever thought they would and I don't think any of them has a $1000/day crack habit to afford.

Anyways. I hope I'm wrong. I hope I'm terribly wrong and in 15 years, when the Goos announce their 2020 tour for their 15th record, you can all laugh at me and tell me how wrong I was.

Title: Re: This is the end...
Post by Iggy_the_Cat on Jan 31^st, 2005, 5:14pm

nmf016...

just to clear something up... I didn't mean to sound like the Goos would sign just for the money... sadly, record labels don't care who the Goo Goo Dolls are...they care about the dollar sign attached to their name...so that's what I was referring to...

I still think that them "saying" the don't want to be a "goo goo doll" when they're 40 doesn't mean they won't be around.

Yes, they've gone on to do some different projects but when interviewed about the Ryan Cabrera album...John said something like " It was a lot of fun, but I miss my band" ....this seems to be the indication to me....

These guys have to much passion for what they do, and they've worked to hard to just walk away, no matter what they say now.

Title: Re: This is the end...
Post by RogueUK on Jan 31^st, 2005, 5:42pm

on 01/31/05 at 17:07:21, nmf016 wrote:

�I'm sure they all have more than they ever thought they would and I don't think any of them has a $1000/day crack habit to afford.

Nope, just Robby's Pez habit ;)

Iggy_the_Cat, my assumptions personally came from various statements that John in particular has made. Things he has said about how he "wants to try writing for movies" instead of being in the band (although why he can't do this and still front the band is a mystery to me...I mean, hello...'Iris'?!) and the one that nmf016 mentioned, about "I don't want to be a 40-year old Goo Goo Doll". There was another interview I read where the interviewer asked the question "What do you want to be doing in ten years time?" and John replied "Not this."

I'd love to be wrong though, I seriously would.

Title: Re: This is the end...
Post by Sarah on Jan 31^st, 2005, 6:11pm

As far as I'm concerned, until those dreaded words leave the lips of one of three men: Johnny, Robby or Mike, this isn't the last album.

:dunno:

Title: Re: This is the end...
Post by GlitteringGoo on Jan 31^st, 2005, 6:55pm

on 01/31/05 at 18:11:43, Sarah wrote:

As far as I'm concerned, until those dreaded words leave the lips of one of three men: Johnny, Robby or Mike, this isn't the last album.

:dunno:

Thank you! I agree with Sarah! I really don't care to hear about hearsay anyone heard either that supposidly came from a 'close source', until I read an offical statement or hear it from their lips it's unoffical to me.

Title: Re: This is the end...
Post by SassyMay on Jan 31^st, 2005, 7:52pm

I hope it's not but you know they're so happy with what they do i don't think this will be they're last record and robby will probably keep pushing john to keep going.