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Re: Name: Then & Now
« on: Dec 15th, 2007, 12:47pm » |
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I think it's hard to say. One of the most interesting things John has said about having success in the music industry is that luck has a great deal to do with it. You might have great songs and be a solid band and have the right 'look' and never get the time of day from anyone, but if you have a mediocre song, the right 'look', and a little luck, you can be huge. And I do believe a lot of it is about being in the right place at the right time. And who knows if that luck would have struck in 2007 the way it did in 1995?
You also have to wonder why the song became a hit. If it was just the lyrics, then maybe the new version would have connected to the same amount of people. But if it was the overall song, I think the new version wouldn't have been as loved as the original version.
I think the original version is very affecting because sounds kind of sad and desperate and quietly angry. It, and the ABNG album as a whole, has a very urgent "we need someone to take notice, we're falling apart, we're tired of promises of being the next big thing, this may be the last thing we do so it better be good" feel to it that makes it feel very sincere.
The new version has none of that. I won't say that the song doesn't mean as much now to John as it did in 1994, because I have no way of knowing that. But the new version doesn't have the same intensity or meaning to me as the original version. To me, it feels more like "alright, we need to take an afternoon to record this again, but it doesn't matter what happens, it's not going to really affect my life at all." It's not awful and I don't hate it, but it does not feel as sincere to me and it's hard to say it would connect to as many people as the original.
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Re: Name: Then & Now
« Reply #1 on: Dec 15th, 2007, 3:26pm » |
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on Dec 15th, 2007, 12:47pm, nmf009 wrote:I think it's hard to say. One of the most interesting things John has said about having success in the music industry is that luck has a great deal to do with it. You might have great songs and be a solid band and have the right 'look' and never get the time of day from anyone, but if you have a mediocre song, the right 'look', and a little luck, you can be huge. And I do believe a lot of it is about being in the right place at the right time. And who knows if that luck would have struck in 2007 the way it did in 1995?
You also have to wonder why the song became a hit. If it was just the lyrics, then maybe the new version would have connected to the same amount of people. But if it was the overall song, I think the new version wouldn't have been as loved as the original version.
I think the original version is very affecting because sounds kind of sad and desperate and quietly angry. It, and the ABNG album as a whole, has a very urgent "we need someone to take notice, we're falling apart, we're tired of promises of being the next big thing, this may be the last thing we do so it better be good" feel to it that makes it feel very sincere.
The new version has none of that. I won't say that the song doesn't mean as much now to John as it did in 1994, because I have no way of knowing that. But the new version doesn't have the same intensity or meaning to me as the original version. To me, it feels more like "alright, we need to take an afternoon to record this again, but it doesn't matter what happens, it's not going to really affect my life at all." It's not awful and I don't hate it, but it does not feel as sincere to me and it's hard to say it would connect to as many people as the original. |
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I agree with you completely Nicole. Very well said. The new version, although pretty, lacks any of the original passion and rawness. It's just there. But it doesn't evoke the same emotion in me as the original.
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Re: Name: Then & Now
« Reply #2 on: Dec 15th, 2007, 5:01pm » |
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Can somebody hook me up with the new version? I really want to hear it, but i'm really broke right now. Going to school. I plan on buying, and i'm planning to rebuy all their albums....but i'm not in a good situation right. Can somebody hook me up? I downloaded the torrent version, but I believe somebody just ripped all of their old songs and put it together.
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Re: Name: Then & Now
« Reply #3 on: Dec 16th, 2007, 12:04am » |
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Ditto about everything Nicole wrote. She summed it up very nicely. I think she deserves a trophy of some kind. 
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Re: Name: Then & Now
« Reply #4 on: Dec 16th, 2007, 1:06am » |
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Know what's better than being told I deserve a trophy? Getting one. 
Gage, do you have any opinions on the matter, seeing as you asked and all?
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Re: Name: Then & Now
« Reply #5 on: Dec 16th, 2007, 10:57am » |
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on Dec 16th, 2007, 1:06am, nmf009 wrote:| Know what's better than being told I deserve a trophy? Getting one. |
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For Nicole's Awesomeness!
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Re: Name: Then & Now
« Reply #6 on: Dec 16th, 2007, 7:34pm » |
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OK, I'm hearing it for the first time - I just bought it from iTunes (I'm not buying for the whole GH-Vol 1 CD).
I like it but I like the original more. You can really hear the difference in John's voice, it's so much lower now.
I think it would be a hit now, b/c they're already an established band and get the airplay they need to make it a hit.
I agree with Nicole, it lacks the urgency of the original version.
PS Name is one of the VERY few GGD songs my husband likes. He heard it when I first played it and said "God that's awful. Why'd they redo it."
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As the old saying goes...
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"
I haven't heard the "re-Name" yet.
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on Dec 16th, 2007, 9:11pm, Gage Naylor wrote:Brings whole new meaning to the Name Change thread, heh heh.
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lol.
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Re: Name: Then & Now
« Reply #9 on: Dec 16th, 2007, 9:40pm » |
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Ha ha... I wish they listened to what we said on here...
Cancel your January gigs. Go write your album. Do the exact opposite of what you did recording LLI. Any questions, you know how to reach me.
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