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Iris vs better days
« on: Sep 21st, 2005, 12:30pm »
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I heard it mentioned that better days was meant to be better than iris. What do you all think, personally I think its an awesome song but falls very short of iris and the power of that song.
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Re: Iris vs better days
« Reply #1 on: Sep 21st, 2005, 12:55pm »
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I know what you mean...I've been trying to work it out myself! Tongue I think the difference (to me at least) is the backing music - it just doesn't seem as strong to me.  
The guitar solo in "Iris" made the song for me, but there's not the same vibe going with "Better Days". But then, maybe there's not meant to be. "Iris" is about someone being passionately in love, whereas "Better Days" is about Christmas. I don't think the two could compare in terms of intensity, if that makes sense.
 
so...yeah. Not in the same league as Iris, but considering it's a song about Christmas, I'm not surprised. Tongue
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Re: Iris vs better days
« Reply #2 on: Sep 21st, 2005, 1:16pm »
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Bettery Days
   -lyrics are very good and uplifting, but generally the same as iris. Better in a positive sense.  
   -Chorus is not memorable as Iris. Not in love with it..but maybe need to grow on me.
   -Solo is awful cuz it's very unoriginal.
   -millions of songs with the name "better days".
   Conclusion: i don' t think they gave it their all...but it's still one of their best songs to me..not bad at all.
 
Iris
   -Best intro
   -Memorable lyrics that everybody can relate to and sing to..especially the chorus.  
   -Solo was really good, like the head banging part.
   -too depressing..this is where I think Better day is better, but I guess more ppl relate to Iris more.
   -Unique song title.
 
Overall:
   I think in a way "better days' Is better cuz the meaning is so amazing. This song has the potential to get very deep into ppl's heart. "Iris' was a great song..but it was a temporary thrill..but this song..VERY deep. For commerical success.."iris" is the way to go...but this song is more than just entertainment. This song can be one of those songs that u hear 30 yrs from now if it's marketed right. Imagine hearing it every Christmas or to symbolize peace? Imagine hearing this song for tradegies.
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Re: Iris vs better days
« Reply #3 on: Sep 21st, 2005, 1:24pm »
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call me lazy but why compare the two songs.......They have some stuff that is simular but they are ver diffrent in alot of aspects.  I dont think the GGD's write a song and say hey lets try and make this better then Iris.  They just let things come to them natually it seems.  Let the song fall into its right place without comparing.  I think its not fair to "better days" to hope it has the success that Iris had, as its very hard for any band to pull off.  Better days will do well and just enjoy the music the goo's give us
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Re: Iris vs better days
« Reply #4 on: Sep 21st, 2005, 5:00pm »
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Better Days definitely but I still love Iris,I've just heard it so much that I'm not as into it as I once was,anyone see what I'm saying?
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Re: Iris vs better days
« Reply #5 on: Sep 21st, 2005, 5:58pm »
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a subsequent album or song rarely is or does better than a previous one due to:"[/i]The law of diminished returns[i] for instance Star Wars(ep.IV) has never been close to being match by  any sequels or prequals in attendance or in come. The Beatles' 1st release was never overcome by any subsequent album. Thus will probably b true w/ the Goo Goo Dolls
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Re: Iris vs better days
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on Sep 21st, 2005, 5:58pm, F_clef wrote:
a subsequent album or song rarely is or does better than a previous one due to:"[/i]The law of diminished returns[i] for instance Star Wars(ep.IV) has never been close to being match by  any sequels or prequals in attendance or in come. The Beatles' 1st release was never overcome by any subsequent album. Thus will probably b true w/ the Goo Goo Dolls

 
I disagree.  Name and ABNG was popular, but the subsequent Iris and DUTG were huge.
 
However, while I'm not a fan of comparing songs, Better Days has nothing on Iris.
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Re: Iris vs better days
« Reply #7 on: Sep 21st, 2005, 11:36pm »
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Hmmm i love them both but i don't think you can ever beat Iris!!! Iris is just such an unbeleivable amazing song!!!
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« Reply #8 on: Sep 22nd, 2005, 11:56am »
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I love htem both, and they are both by the GGD's so why compare them?!!  
 
And i dont see how better days is about Xmas when they only mention one thing about boxes wrapped in string....  lmfao other than that i think its about the bad in the world... (war, tsunami, hurricanes, ..etc)
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Re: Iris vs better days
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on Sep 22nd, 2005, 11:56am, hereisgone591 wrote:
I love htem both, and they are both by the GGD's so why compare them?!!  
 
And i dont see how better days is about Xmas when they only mention one thing about boxes wrapped in string....  lmfao other than that i think its about the bad in the world... (war, tsunami, hurricanes, ..etc)

You don't see how it is about Christmas??
Ok well,you already know about the boxes wrapped in string.
When he says "Cause tonight's the night the world begins again..."meaning when Jesus was born the world started over or something like that.
"I wish everyone was loved tonight.."Christmas is normally a holiday where everyone has someone to love,thank,etc....
And some of the other lyrics give it away but it's a little harder to explain,you just have to really listen to the words.
Sorry,I don't mean to sound rude. Kiss
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